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		<title>imported&gt;Kollins: diff cha needed for Apprehensive, Indifferent and Amiable?</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;diff cha needed for Apprehensive, Indifferent and Amiable?&lt;/p&gt;
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== Evidence for / against Vendors being charmed. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Vendors were nerfed to be immune to charm due to circumstantial evidence (e.g. random posts on eq.crgaming.com - see below)&lt;br /&gt;
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Nilbog mentioned this nerf could be reverted if anyone could find evidence of a merchant being charmed. This section of discussion is a repository for evidence in one direction or the other.&lt;br /&gt;
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aforementioned e.g.:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;DOES THIS GET 35&amp;#039;S?, By Tabien (1/28/2001)&lt;br /&gt;
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The max level is listed as 35, but when trying to charm a merchant (something I&amp;#039;ve wanted to do since the first one I tried to talk to without hitting &amp;quot;enter&amp;quot;...unfortunately there was an &amp;quot;a&amp;quot; in the phrase!) the other day. I know for certain he is level 35, and he resisted four straight times... and he conned blue. I&amp;#039;ve never been resisted by a blue more than once, so I wonder if merchants have far higher MR than others? Or is 35 just out of the level range for Beguile? The message was the normal &amp;quot;Your target has resisted the Beguile spell&amp;quot; one; nothing in there about being too high for the spell. Tabien 37 enchanter Quellious&amp;quot; [https://web.archive.org/web/20011225033414/http://eq.castersrealm.com/spells/spell.asp?Id=84]&lt;br /&gt;
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This was a very controversial change, panned for being lacking in evidence for implementation, so let&amp;#039;s see some evidence to have it reverted.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Eldrath|Eldrath]] ([[User talk:Eldrath|talk]]) 17:55, 25 August 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Of Prices and Charisma == &lt;br /&gt;
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I was under the impression that Cha for best cost was different with faction. I think when I tested it, you need like 140cha? (has anyone tested/confirmed the actual value) for cheapest prices at Apprehensive. I thought the Indifferent best cost Charisma was 102, but if people say 104 I haven&amp;#039;t confirmed it recently. I also believe there is a lower Cha for Amiable, something like 92 Cha, but again I&amp;#039;ve been running off this rough idea but haven&amp;#039;t confirmed it in awhile, if ever on P99&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Kollins|Kollins]] ([[User talk:Kollins|talk]]) 20:18, 24 February 2026 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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